Poll: Is the Tea Party Over? Pundits Say This Conservative Crusade Is Dead

Lone disciples such as Gilbert Cope of Carlsbad may differ, but influence may be on the wane.

Is the Tea Party dead?  That’s the topic of conversation on political websites and blogs in the wake of recent setbacks to Tea Party candidates and elected officials, including the recall vote targeting Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker.  No doubt Tea Party disciples still keep the faith—including Gilbert “Hustusa” Cope, the Carlsbad resident of “I didn’t vote for this Obamanation” fame. But is the party over for national political influence? 

Kevin George May 01, 2012 at 08:50 PM
But evidently you know what I'm talking about..... So young, so much to learn.
Things I Learned May 01, 2012 at 08:53 PM
Intent has been divined.
Kevin George May 01, 2012 at 08:54 PM
The Cato Institute was a huge critic of Bush so I guess it's who you pay attention to. http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/looking-back-cato-critical-of-bushs-big-government-policies/
Things I Learned May 01, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Bryceson Cabading May 01, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Kevin, stop with the whole "you are young, thus you must know nothing" bull. It's pretty old and doesn't do anything to help your argument. I know exactly what you are talking about- you are defending the Tea Party against claims that they spit on a US Congressman, while I am saying that it absolutely did happen, and was caught on video. Take another look at the video- the Congressman is walking up the stairs, and to the right of him there is a tea party protester in a white cap who has both of his hands curled over his mouth. As the Congressman walks up the stairs, the protester leans in very close to him and makes a little thrust motion with his head. The Congressman immediately ducks down a little and shields his face with his right hand. Of course you can't see the spit- a strand of spit is small and practically invisible in the bright sun- which the camera is directly facing. The Congressman begins to make a scene, but the policewoman can be seen urging him to move up the stairs. She also appears to make a scolding gesture towards the protestor, suggesting at the very least that a slur was uttered at him. You are asking me to use common sense- so based on the above information, a reasonable conclusion to make is that the Congressman's story, as well as multiple witnesses who were around him, is accurate.
Things I Learned May 01, 2012 at 09:02 PM
Ronald Selkovitch May 01, 2012 at 09:14 PM
Perhaps the following information shows the relationship of the bombers to the 'Occupy movement': 'An FBI informant saw four of the men going through the crowd expressing displeasure at demonstrators' unwillingness to engage in violent acts. The men wore masks and carried walkie-talkies, according to the affidavit. There was an "Occupy Cleveland" protest that day and that group said in a statement posted on Facebook that the men arrested were associated with their movement. But it said "they were in no way representing or acting on behalf of Occupy Cleveland" and said the group was committed to non-violent protest. "These were self-described anarchists who formed their own group," said one U.S. law enforcement official. "During the investigation, several of them repeatedly complained that the Occupy movement was too peaceful and would not endorse their violent activities."
Kevin George May 01, 2012 at 09:20 PM
I'm not in the mind changing business, believe what you wish.
Things I Learned May 01, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Scott H. Kidwell May 01, 2012 at 09:30 PM
Every group is littered with less than perfect people and those who's passion/anger/stupidity gets the best of them from time to time(teenagers, males, females, Republicans, Democrats, Independents, elected officials, business owners, workers, etc). There are even some really rotten people in every group. The examples are far too many to go on listing back and forth. Using absolute terms such as always and never used in descriptions of people and movements seems to simply heighten the condescending rhetoric and further entrench feeling and opinions we already have. Creating a trial by u-tube video is not likely to win many converts. Instead of discussing the TEA PARTY ideals and their value or relevance as offered in the original writing we are going nowhere in this blog by displaying questionable behavior to reenforce a preconceived view.
Things I Learned May 01, 2012 at 09:45 PM
http://splicd.com/6DgLEDICYkU/58/80 ;-)
Things I Learned May 01, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Ronald Selkovitch May 02, 2012 at 05:35 PM
Yes, it would be desirable to be able to put aside random acts of racism, and concentrate on the real philosophy underlying the Tea party, but how do you ignore the visceral hatred that sprang up against the president, with the simultaneous rise of the Tea Party. What about the refusal to accept his birth certificate. What about the accusation that he is a Moslem and unfit to be President. If these issues are irrelevant to the Tea Party, somebody just say so and lets move on.
Kevin George May 02, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Ronald, I consider myself a supporter/member of the Tea Party and neither of those issues are a concern to me. But..........visceral hatred? Do I really need to link any of the examples of the lefts visceral hatred of Bush and Cheney? It has been said here before but , every group has members that do tasteless things.
Things I Learned May 03, 2012 at 03:29 AM
Hey remember when Tea Party rioters were arrested with homemade bombs and bags of excrement to throw at police? http://img.ly/hIKE I don't.
Doug Curlee May 03, 2012 at 02:29 PM
things.. yeah, i remember when that didn't happen.. doug
Batman May 03, 2012 at 04:27 PM
But Doug, you must remember the Tea Party supporting that racist, bigot, white supremacist guy Herman Cain!
Doug Curlee May 03, 2012 at 04:34 PM
that i do remember..sorta..i remember it a little differently than you do.;. whatever happened to that guy, anyway?.. doug
Batman May 03, 2012 at 04:39 PM
Oh, he's probably out marching with the Nazi Party or burning a cross in someone's front yard.
Things I Learned May 06, 2012 at 04:34 PM
Hey remember when the Tea Party tried to spin its way out of association with attempted bridge bombers and then it turned out one of the almost bridge bombers had signed the lease on Tea Party headquarters so the Tea Party tried to scrub the record before the media found out and the FBI came knocking? "CLEVELAND, Ohio -- One of the five self-described anarchists arrested last week for attempting to blow up a local bridge signed the lease for a West Side warehouse where about a dozen members of the Occupy Cleveland group live. In a one-hour recording of a Friday evening general assembly meeting of the group posted on its website http://occupycleveland.com/live-stream/, occupy leaders expressed concern about Anthony Hayne's name being on the lease, which strengthens his link to the group. "We have a person facing terrorism charges on the lease of our warehouse," said one of the leaders. "If this gets into the media, it would be a disaster." ... "During the general assembly meeting, one leader asked the group, "Is it just me? Aren't you uncomfortable living in a warehouse where a guy has been arrested for terrorism? I don't want to live in a place and have the FBI show up." ... At the meeting, the leaders ousted a man from the movement who is known only as "Crazy Larry" because he assaulted another member the night before. " http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/05/terror_suspect_signed_lease_on.html I don't.
Larry May 06, 2012 at 04:54 PM
He's hanging out with Tiger at a Perkins restaurant.
Things I Learned May 06, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Tom Yarnall May 09, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Flash! The Tea Party strikes again in Indiana.
Doug Curlee May 09, 2012 at 01:24 AM
yep..now all they have to do is figure out how to beat the democratic nominee..a young congressman who's perhaps the most popular young politician in the state.. most experts in indiana don't give the republican nominee much of a chance.. we'll see what happens.. doug
Things I Learned May 09, 2012 at 01:30 PM
Hey anybody remember when the Tea Party candidate did better against a 6 term Senator than Barack Obama did against a convict and a fellow Democrat refused to say whether he voted for Obama or the convict? I do and I will forever and evers. http://www.sheboyganpress.com/usatoday/article/39225377?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s
Tom Yarnall May 09, 2012 at 04:50 PM
The race will surely show if the TP is dead. Moderate Democrats are getting nervous about Obama's performance. This could be a reflection of the attitude of the independent voter, which will make the difference,.
Tom Yarnall May 09, 2012 at 05:10 PM
Doug, I do believe the experts you refer to are Democratic strategist. Do you think they will ask Obama to come Indiana and stump for the young man?
Doug Curlee May 09, 2012 at 05:20 PM
they possibly will..and no, the experts are NOT all democrats..there are people in the republican party in indiana who are nervous about the race.. it's one thing to defeat an 80-year-old, six-term senator who doesn't even live in the state anymore, and who ran a terrible race.. it's quite another to defeat a popular younger congressman who'll be able to tap a lot of democrat money for the campaign..able because that seat will be very important for democrats looking to retain control of the senate.. it'll be an inteersting race to watch, for sure.. doug
Things I Learned June 06, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Hey remember when the media was asking "Is the Tea Party over" and pundits were saying "This conservative crusade is dead"? http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2012/05/tea-party-i-told-you-so/676326 I do.
Things I Learned July 14, 2012 at 05:46 AM
Hey remember when the Tea Party vandalized several blocks of Downtown Los Angeles then attacked the police with bottles and rocks who had to go to "citywide tactical alert" and oh yeah made a bunch of effete yuppies cry because their Art Walk was spoiled? http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/local/los_angeles&id=8734962 I don't.


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