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Newly Formed Term Limits Committee Files for Ballot

A citizens group has taken another step to get term limits for council members.

The newly formed Poway Term Limits Committee officially kicked off its campaign Thursday after its leaders filed the necessary paperwork with the City Clerk’s office to get their issue on the ballot.

The seven-member committee—which was originally formed with the guidance of Councilman Dave Grosch—worked on the petition. Carmen Cimicato, David Radcliff and Laura Van Tyne officially filed the paperwork, and David Haessig came along to support.

“Term limits for Poway—that’s the ultimate goal,” Van Tyne said.

The City Council voted 3-2 Feb. 22 against the proposal for city staff to study term limits for council members. Grosch initially proposed the study, and Councilwoman Merrilee Boyack supported it.

Following the vote, Grosch, who had lobbied for term limits throughout his campaign, said he would bring the issue to a “public debate” and eventually place the issue on the November 2012 ballot.

Councilman Jim Cunningham, who voted against the proposal along with Mayor Don Higginson and Councilman John Mullin, said he would have voted differently for the proposal had signatures of support been presented to the council.

“When (Grosch) was out campaigning, the most common element he heard was the citizens wanted term limits, and so he incorporated that into his campaign,” Van Tyne said. “Now he’s living up to his campaign promise.”

The petition states that candidates or appointees may not serve more than two consecutive councilmember terms or more than two consecutive mayoral terms. It also states that candidates or appointees may not serve more than four consecutive terms as a mayor and/or councilmember.  

Without term limits, Van Tyne said incumbents have “a huge advantage.”

“This kind of levels out the playing field,” she said. “It returns the citizen-politician back to our community, versus a professional politician.”

Cimicato said: “We have a lot of people in this city that would be stellar performers on the city council, but it’s very difficult for them to break into that. This makes it easier.

“We’re not saying that the city council is doing poorly,” he added. “What we’re saying is there’s other people that deserve to have an opportunity.”

Radcliff said term limits would lead to fresh ideas, and Haessig said term limits would help fight complacency.

The city attorney will respond to the committee within 14 days, Van Tyne said. The city will prepare an impartial ballot statement to circulate.

To make the ballot, the committee will need 2,800 signatures but it is aiming for 3,500.

“We don’t see that as being a problem,” she said.

The committee currently has approximately 300 subscribers on its email list, she added.

For more information, about the committee and the petition, visit http://powayfortermlimits.blogspot.com/

PETITION DETAILS

What a candidate or appointee can do:

Serve two consecutive terms as councilmember.

Serve two consecutive terms as councilmember and two more terms as mayor.

Serve two terms as councilmember, wait two years, and serve again.

Serve one term as mayor, one term as councilmember and two terms as mayor.

Serve two terms as councilmember, one term as mayor and one term as councilmember.

Serve four terms on the council, wait two years, and serve again.

What a candidate or appointee cannot do:

Serve more than two consecutive councilmember terms.

Serve more than two consecutive mayoral terms.

Serve more than four consecutive terms as a mayor and/or councilmember.

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Status Quo March 30, 2013 at 08:26 pm
Ken' "since most of the pro-active sports organizations (ASA (softball), AYSO, and LittleRead More League) have been doing it for years." "The only thing is that it won't stop those that have not been caught yet." Right up front, this is not attack of your insider view... however you make excellent case of the dubious nature of Mr. Maienschein's efforts. The organization you umpire, is already pro-active(if no perpetrators have been present within the org.) and legislation is an interference. Although the Assemblyman shares my Party affiliation as Republican, his legislation is a Progressive trojan-horse adding a layer of expansive over-governance. Ken, will his legislation improve the efficacy of background checks? Will it force lesser pro-active or ill-financed organizations to fold? Although I align myself with Scott Nelson's bottom line and sentiments, quite reticent to believe "local governments/state governments are willing to provide and pay for" anything themselves. For it is you and me, not legislators or governance that pays for programs such as these. I have found Government, highly inefficient and bad stewards of the interests of our children. In the interest of efficiency, I am quite confident in order to coach his daughter's soccer team he has passed his background check... and quite willing under my added mandate, to allow his check to suffice for legislative service as compliant.
Ken Mosley March 30, 2013 at 04:03 pm
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Scott Nelson March 30, 2013 at 10:42 am
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Kathy April 19, 2013 at 02:40 pm
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aprillacy32@yahoo.com April 19, 2013 at 02:23 pm
Mike you are spot on this is what I have been saying and trying to get them listen CDCR, my teacherRead More and I were just discussing how lifers are the only inmates offered rehabilitation which makes no sense at all to me when a man serving 5 or 10 who will be getting out does not receive rehabilitation this is a cycle that is repeating it's self and there are so many family's kid's who need there parent's this has a far greater impact on our community in so many way's and different level's that we have to find a solution
mike April 19, 2013 at 03:02 am
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Frank H. Robles April 11, 2013 at 12:07 pm
She will run.... but not get the Nomination....!!!
Gail April 10, 2013 at 02:52 pm
Yup! I agree with it all.
Dan Wright April 4, 2013 at 10:50 am
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