Updated at 9:55 a.m. Feb. 14, 2013
Editor's note: County GOP Chairman Tony Krvaric reports: “Not one of the committee members bought in to [Karen Grube’s] conspiracy theories and I was re-elected unanimously.”
Original story:
Calling him “corrupt” and “too Chicago-style politics for me,” a Carmel Mountain Ranch woman has launched an online effort to oust Tony Krvaric as leader of the San Diego County Republican Party
Karen Grube is behind a Facebook page titled Tony Krvaric, You’re Fired.
“Tony lost big time” in the Nov. 6 elections, Grube said Tuesday in a phone interview. “Over the past four years, we’ve had a chance” to improve the GOP standing here. “We blew it.”
Grube (pronounced GREW-bee) called herself “basically a Kennedy Democrat” who joined the Republican Party after growing disenchanted with the Democrats and President Obama, and has connections with the Tea Party movement.
She’s especially upset over Krvaric’s support of Carl DeMaio for San Diego mayor, accusing him of not vetting a gay candidate whose partner is accused of a criminal past and ties to the porn industry.
“I am appalled that Carl DeMaio was [endorsed by the GOP],” said Grube, 60, a paralegal and third-generation San Diegan. “He was a poor candidate.”
In June, Grube ran for the party’s Central Committee from the 77th Assembly District but didn’t finish in the top six needed for election. (She was 13th out of 17, with 4 percent of the vote.)
She said she cares very much about the county’s conservative roots, and “I’m not going to let this continue,” referring to Krvaric’s leadership. “We are not trusted [as a party]. And Tony is the reason we’re not trustworthy.”
Among many other things, Grube says Krvaric packs the Central Committee with his friends and finds ways to expel his adversaries. She says he’ll schedule Executive Committee meetings and not tell certain members, then arrange to have them boosted for lack of attendance.
She said he bought space on political mailers that endorsed his allies for the county Central Committee and made it appear that the GOP was backing these candidates.
“We need someone with a different approach—a more ethical” approach, she said.
For his part, Krvaric said: “We don’t comment on anonymous emails, Facebook pages, etc.”
But after being informed that Grube was behind the effort, he replied to an email query: “The committee is elected by registered Republicans voting in June of each even numbered year. Some candidates whose ideas are rejected by their fellow Republicans sometimes grow bitter and try to blame others for their failures. This is sad, but nothing new.”
Officers of the committee will be elected in December, he said.
Grube said she her effort to remove Krvaric “isn’t a personal attack” but an effort to “get better leadership.”
Asked who on the committee would have done a better job amid the Democratic sweep of the San Diego mayor’s office, county supervisor vacancy and the hard-fought 52nd Congressional District (Scott Peters over GOP incumbent Brian Bilbray), Grube noted the insular nature of the panel and the fear that members have about challenging Chairman Krvaric.
“They’re going along to get along,” she said of Central Committee members—some of whom might challenge Krvaric for the chairmanship if they felt they had some backing.
Her Facebook page is essentially 2 days old, she said, and had only 13 Likes as of 5 p.m. Tuesday. But she said like-minded Republicans have not “Liked” the page for fear of crossing Krvaric and becoming known.
“This is just too Chicago for me. It’s too corrupt,” Grube said. “I’m not trying to be personal about this. This is factual. I’m not making this stuff up.”
Grube noted a 39-page document she uploaded to Facebook that opens with a 2008 letter from Cliff and Laura Sumrall to fellow members of the Republican Party Central Committee.
“This complaint has been put together via great effort and was sent to you, not as a character assassination of our Chair, but as an alert to the erosion of the basic principal of fairness,” the letter says.
The memo alleges a series of due-process violations and “inappropriate conduct” by Krvaric, including overruling nominations of Central Committee candidates and choosing his own instead.
The committee has 66 members—six from each of the eight Assembly districts in the county and 18 ex-officio members [mainly office-holders] and alternates, according to the party’s website.
Grube also says she tried to interest other people in running for San Diego mayor—including retired congressman Duncan L. Hunter (father of the incumbent). She says Hunter told her was occupied with promoting his book and spending time with his grandchildren.
She says she also tried to get former state Sen. Dennis Hollingsworth and failed state Senate candidate George Plescia to run for mayor.
Grube says she’s alerting Tea Party Facebook pages and others to the fire-Tony page.
Her first of several reasons for removing Krvaric:
Out of 71 races in other than special districts, 42 of the candidates endorsed by the Republican Party of San Diego County lost! We practically handed the Democrats our County! How on Earth did we let Susan Davis beat Nick Popaditch, Marty Block beat George Plescia, and Sherri Lightner beat Ray Ellis? We even let the Democrats get a supermajority in both the State Senate and State Assembly! How could we let this happen?
“I have nothing to lose,” she said in a half-hour phone chat with Patch. “My intent is to help the Republican Party in San Diego.”
I am proud of the Republican Party for being "obstructionist" when it comes to bad laws or bad policies. That is precisely what they should do. Might I also remind you that the Senate hasn't passed a budget or even proposed one in over three and a half years, and that it was BOTH parties who rejected the President's budget proposals a short while back. By the way, no one really listens to someone whose best is namecalling, lies, and mischaracterizations. That's just so . . . Obama.
i see this argument all the time..and it's simply ridiculous to argue that the republican and democrat parties of today have any resemblance at all to the same-named parties of the 1860's.. you really ought to give that one a rest..and try to come on into the 21st century..or at least the 20th.. doug
we don't elect our representatives to serve grover norquist.. we elect them to serve us.. or at least, that's what they're SUPPOSED to do.. anybody remember that? doug
The Republicans of today are equivalent to the conservative Democrats of the 1950s. Today's Democrats are equivalent to the Soviets of the 1950s. The "bible thumpers" don't hate the gays, they hate what they do. Have you ever heard of AIDS? If you love someone would you encourage them to smoke cigarettes? The Republicans are not anti-science. There is no science behind global warming. The "scientists" can't even keep their stories straight. Anti-black you say? Then why is it every time a modern day Frederick Douglass pops up the Democrat hit squad immediately slaps him down, ie Herman Cain, Allen West, ect. The only use you people in the criminal justice indusrty have for blacks is an ample source of felony crime which you make HUGE profits from. The red blood of the blacks turns to green money for the white attorneys. There's more I'd like to say to you but Ken Stone would probably kick me off Patch if I did. Have a nice day.
The tax increases Obama is proposing will only crush small business investment and growth even further, and so will the obamacare tax, since the Supreme Court has now deemed the mandate a tax.
But we find the ad to be false. The pledge only protects corporations from an increase in taxation overall. It explicitly allows elimination of any specific tax deduction or credit if matched dollar-for-dollar by an overall cut in rates. And it says nothing about jobs." http://qvga.factcheck.org/2010/04/a-false-tax-attack/
It was called "blatantly false" by Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), THE GROVER NORQUIST REPUBLICAN-LEANING GROUP THAT GOT DJOU’S SIGNATURE ON ITS ANTI-TAX PLEDGE. The ATR believes it is false because the pledge signatory IS ALLOWED TO VOTE FOR ANY NET REDUCTION OR ELIMINATION OF DEDUCTIONS AND CREDITS, as long as IT IS MATCHED DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR BY FURTHER REDUCING TAX RATES. My belief is the add was blatantly true, because there should be no strings attached to ending a tax write-off for expenses incurred sending American jobs offshore. Once all the facts came to light about who made the “blatantly false” claim the voters sorted it all out. Charles Kong Djou won his congressional seat in a special election in May 2010, BUT WAS DEFEATED IN THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER 2010
that's a nice recitation of tea party talking points..which is what i expected.. the fact tghat virtually none of them are remotely true apparently doesn't magtter.. but you're missing the main point..where the hell does grover norquist, or anyone else, get off demanding that republicans sign a pledge to HIM?.. anyone signing that pledge is breaking faith with the voters who elected them in the first place..they do NOT work for grover norquist..they work for US.. if they want to go along with the principles norquist stands for, so be it..but let them do it on their own..if they have the guts to do it.. anyone who signs that pledge should be expelled from congress and sent home..which appears to be what the voters are starting to do..thank god.. doug
A company would likely benefit from lower taxes in the new country, but that doesn't qualify as a tax "deduction" on any taxes the company still pays here in the U.S. As far as I am aware, there is no line item on a corporate tax return for that. There may also be some tax adjustments related to the closing of a plant or business here in the U.S. For example, if they sell equipment purchased as a capitol expense, they may be able to deduct some of the loss. That isn't really a tax deduction for moving jobs overseas, because it would apply to any company that closes. It is also true that the employees who lose their jobs won't be paying income taxes, but that isn't really a deduction either. Could you please explain to me then or link to any specific information about what precise tax "deductions" a company gets by moving a portion or all of their business overseas. Or are you really just spouting back the class warfare rhetoric of the Obama administration?
Basically, what I'm saying is that the President implied something that isn't true, but I'm asking if you have any different information. Actually, you just did what the President did; you implied by my question about specific deductions that I think wholesale offshore moves are acceptable. That wasn't the question at all. I'm just trying to get the facts straight about deductions. I don't like being lied to by implication, which is what the President did, as far as I can tell. Correct me if I'm wrong.
is krvaric's report enough of a reason to resurrect this corpse?..:-) doug