Pop Quiz on Prop. 38—One More Time

California PTA president provides information about Proposition 38.

If you are like most Californians, you know our schools are in trouble.

And you care deeply about YOUR local school.

But you have not had enough time to study the initiatives

Here is a chance to learn more about Proposition 38—so that when you enter the voting booth, it does not feel like that dreaded pop quiz.

The California State PTA helped write and is supporting Proposition 38 to restore the programs and services that have been cut at all our local schools.


Let’s start.   (Don’t miss the question for extra points at the end!)

Here is the title of Proposition 38


Read the following quotes in italics from the Independent Legislative Analyst and then see if you can answer the quiz.

“Fiscal Effect

Around $10 Billion of Additional Annual State Revenues. In the initial years—beginning in 2013–14—the annual amount of additional state revenues raised would be around $10 billion. …The total revenues generated would tend to grow over time.

Distributes School Funds Through Three Grant Programs.

Proposition 38 requires that CETF school funds be allocated as follows:

Educational Program Grants (70 Percent of Funds). The largest share of funds—70 percent of all CETF school funding—would be distributed based on the number of students at each school. …Educational program grants could be spent on a broad range of activities, including instruction, school support staff (such as counselors and librarians), and parent engagement.

Low-Income Student Grants (18 Percent of Funds). The measure requires that 18 percent of CETF school funds be allocated at one statewide rate based on the number of low-income students (defined as the number of students eligible for free school meals) enrolled in each school. As with the educational program grants, low-income student grants could be spent on a broad range of educational activities. 

Training, Technology, and Teaching Materials Grants (12 Percent of Funds). The remaining 12 percent of funds would be allocated at one statewide rate based on the number of students at each school. The funds could be used only for training school staff and purchasing up-to-date technology and teaching materials.


  1. Does Proposition 38 raise about $ 10 billion per year?
  2. Does Proposition 38 require the funds to be spent at each school based on the number of students?
  3. Does Proposition 38 provide extra funding for low-income students at their school?
  4. Does Proposition 38 help teachers with training, technology and teaching materials?


Yes to all questions


How much money will your local school receive?

Click here to find out:  www.prop38forlocalschools.org/restore.

Now that you’ve taken the quiz, check back again to learn more about Prop 38.

Carol Kocivar is the president of the California Parent Teacher Association.

Things I Learned October 22, 2012 at 11:41 PM
Hey remember when a multimillionaire bankrolled Proposition 38 and newspapers from all across the state from the Orange County Register to the San Francisco Chronicle said vote no on Prop 38 it's a scam and even the pinkos at the California Budget Project http://www.cbp.org/publications/ballot_prop_land.html said there is nothing to stop the Legislature from cutting edumacation spending somewhere else so schools wouldn't get the money but we'd still pay higher taxes?
Ed Sorrels October 23, 2012 at 12:27 AM
We (The taxpayer) have thrown money at the school problems for as long as I can remember which is a long while and it never seem's to be enough for them there is always something more they want money for, I quit, No more. Stop the free breakfast, free lunch, free after school programs, these are the responsiability of the parents not the tax payers, A yes on 38 will get you more taxes and not much else ! I put four of my kid's thru school with out the use of any of the FREE programs and fail to seer why I need to pay for someone else's kid's to do so !
Libi Uremovic October 23, 2012 at 01:14 AM
''...and when we ask them: 'how much do you NEED' the answer is always more more more more more..."
Libi Uremovic October 23, 2012 at 01:19 AM
i'm not voting for this either... if they money was going into the general fund it would be different....but this money is earmarked and will run through 'grant programs'... ...which means most of the money will go to executive pays and perks and very little will actually tickle down to the kids... we pay plenty of taxes to provide good services.... the system is corrupt and the money is being pillaged instead of used for the needs of the students... we the people have to take it upon ourselves to audit these agencies and eliminate the waste because the people pillaging the tax money will not stop themselves...
John Galt October 23, 2012 at 01:33 AM
No on 38. (I know you were ready for No on S) Like the lottery 38 will do nothing. California needs to start over again and fund the true constitutional requirements. Then with the money left over, pay for social programs. In addition, I want California to be 49th in social programs. Pay our prison guards 10th in the country. Pay our teachers fifth on the country. Pay our legislators 20th in the country. And we only need a part time legislation. How many new laws do we need? California is the leader in chasing business away. Thank you
SoHum Kids October 23, 2012 at 02:36 AM
A yes vote for prop 30 ends cuts to the current public education funding. A yes vote for prop 38 brings in much needed additional funding for public education. A yes/yes vote for these propositions tells politicians that we intend to turn our failing public education system around and we are demanding logical, sufficient, and stable funding for public education. A yes/yes vote says that we are demanding real, systematic change in support of high quality K-12 Public Education. A yes/yes vote says that fundraising for everything from teachers to toilet paper in not the answer to fixing our Public Education in California. For more information and to join our united California voice for better education please visit http://www.educateourstate.org/
Things I Learned October 23, 2012 at 03:26 AM
Unless we vote to raise our taxes politicians won't think we are serious about fixing public education. The best way to do that is to vote for 30 because 30 really soaks the rich and they don't have any way to avoid the tax so 30 will not create a volatile revenue stream at all and we should at least vote for 38 even though 38 will overturn 30 if it gets more votes because it was written by a rich person so it soaks the middle class too which is how we get better edumacation.
Gayle October 23, 2012 at 04:08 AM
To counter a couple of the comments above, Prop 38 goes DIRECTLY to the schools -- not the state, not the school district. Directly to the schools. They can use it to higher more teachers, higher art/pe/music specialists, technology, etc. For the first four years, 30% of the money goes to state budget relief. Our local elementary school will receive almost $500,000 THE FIRST YEAR. This money can make a REAL difference in education. It's a GOOD THING that the money doesn't go in the "general fund." Money that goes there gets spent on other things. Never makes it to education. Prop 38 is good for the kids!!!
Debi October 23, 2012 at 04:19 AM
Does anyone realize how many initatives are on the ballot this year that will directly raise taxes??? Lets see if all of these props pass how much more will I be paying in taxes! AA, EE, 30, 38!
Komfort October 23, 2012 at 04:23 AM
DOBBERTEEN, KATHIE D $8,886.97 $106,643.64 HOGARTH, WARREN T $16,680.00 $200,160.00 MUNDEN, DENNIS E $9,620.37 $115,444.44 ROYAL, DON G $11,206.81 $134,481.72 SUTTON, CYNTHIA J $9,521.62 $114,259. http://database.californiapensionreform.com/database.asp?vtsearchname=&vtsearchemploy=LA+MESA-SPRING+VALLEY&vtquery=1&vttable=calstrs
Doug Curlee October 23, 2012 at 04:27 AM
i will not vote for any education tax increase unless and until it specifies that the proceeds of those taxes may NOT be used in ANY way for higher teacher salaries.. doug
Things I Learned October 23, 2012 at 04:44 AM
Prop 38 money goes directly to schools for the first four years 30%of the money goes to state budget relief the money goes directly to local schools they know best how to bring resources to the process .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo
Mike October 23, 2012 at 03:43 PM
I fully support education and think that it should be a top priority in the public budget. I will be voting no on Prop 38 and Prop 30. I have two children in K-12 schools in the San Dieguito Union school district. My reasons for voting are below: 1) I disagree with the state budget priority of funding. I would like to see more $ go to K-12 than a high speed rail, prisons etc…. If the state made K-12 more of a priority this wouldn’t need to be a prop. 2)The centralization funding of K-12 schools has failed California K-12 schools as evidence by recent years. I support local funding. 3) Concessions and reforms need to be made by the teachers union. California teacher’s salaries are among the highest in the country, top 10%, but the K-12 schools are in the bottom 20% of national testing. 4) Prop 13 has had the unintentional consequences of being a regressive tax on young. It forces newer home owners and income tax payers to bear more of the burden of funding public K-12 education. Assessment adjusted local property tax revenue funding is a progressive tax that promotes growth and taxes proportionally to value and net worth. 5) Income tax increases are not the method that I support to fund underfunded K-12 schools. I feel that this method increases the burden upon working class earners disproportionately and is a regressive tax.
Jay Berman October 23, 2012 at 05:07 PM
NO NO NO NO NO NO !!!!!! on all tax increases and new bonds ..
SoHum Kids October 23, 2012 at 05:09 PM
Prop 38 does not allow the funds to be spent on raising teacher salaries, it does allow the hire of new teachers to help bring down class sizes and add art, music, etc back into the curriculum at schools.
SoHum Kids October 23, 2012 at 05:11 PM
Mike, we may not agree with how to vote right now, but it sounds you would like our goals and strategy for the long run at www.educateourstate.com, please check us out!
Jay Berman October 23, 2012 at 05:20 PM
Ther more we spend, the worse we get ... I think we are 48th in the country now, we were near the top 30 years ago ... We need parental choice ... more charters, vouchers ... things the unions hate ... but they work .. my son goes to a charter, he is so far ahead of his peers .. he is getting an excellent education for far less than it costs to educate a regular public school student ... its time we do whats good for students, not the unions .. not the administrators .. and you DON'T raise taxes in a very crappy economy
Libi Uremovic October 23, 2012 at 05:32 PM
politicians use 'target markets' to raise taxes.....'it's for the kids' or 'it's against smoking' are two areas that have been easily targeted because it's gotten a very positive reaction in the past... but we're past the point where throwing money at the problem is going to solve anything...we've got to step in and stop the corruption... every agency blows money as fast as they can so they can scream for more on the theory that someone else will pick up the tab... city, school district, county, state, federal... everyone keeps passing the buck to the next person's tax payer....but there is only one tax payer under all of those layers of taxes ....they all are squeezing the same tax payer .... ...and they're just wasting the money...imperial beach wastes about 50% of their money instead of using it for the basic needs of the city...and the schools do the same thing... here's a perfect example of the insanity: imperial beach has no art programs in the schools, but is has a $200,000/yr graffiti removal program on the budget that doesn't even exist....if the city has $200,000 give it to the schools for an art program and address the issue of graffiti instead of wasting the money and forcing another tax on the state level.: http://libionline.net/rda-blog.html
Libi Uremovic October 23, 2012 at 05:37 PM
you left out eliminated rda from city budgets and all of the lobbyists groups attached to government agencies....rda is the major reason why there is no local funding for the schools... ib city council person lorie bragg goes to a 'league of cali cities' meeting and comes back with the message: 'we have to waste money faster before the state takes it'... WRONG MESSAGE
Libi Uremovic October 23, 2012 at 05:45 PM
i don't agree with you about teachers' salaries ... they take care of the children...it's one of the most important jobs there is and they should be compensated... in japan teachers are one of the highest paid professions...and they draw the best teachers...and they produce results... AND iv'e yet to meet this demographic of teachers that are bringing in the big bucks or are living lavish retired lives... i live next door to a retired couple ...both teachers....they're just simple people....they don't have lavish amounts of money or great retirements... teachers are line workers....they're not the ones that are pillaging the money because they don't have the ability or access.... and who has the ability and access to pillage tax payer money? it's the ones that are pointing to the line worker as the problem...what a coincidence... we the people can make the changes needed to clean up our government agencies mike...when you look at it on the books it's not that difficult....as a matter of fact it's more than obvious..... but we're going to have to come together and use facts ... not get caught up in ether sides' political agenda....
Kevin George October 23, 2012 at 05:54 PM
A proposition that would cost no money and actually do something to improve schools would be one that allowed teachers to be FIRED at any time in their career. I would vote for that. Both of these propositions are more of the same old shell game no matter how many times they cry " But it's different this time!"
Salinde October 23, 2012 at 08:25 PM
Folks both 30 and 38 wont go into effect. To be clear if both of them wins, only one goes into effect. The one that goes into effect is the one with the highest number of votes....I voting NO on both.
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Sherry Howard November 01, 2012 at 06:20 PM
What happened to the California Lottery helping schools? How much does that really go to help? VOTE NO ON ANY MORE TAXES! Those a@#holes have more than enough money. Education to those who are legal and are deserving of the benefits of the system. We are being taxed to death and if you go to some of these schools, you can see how much WASTE there is. Busing kids all across town - do you know who pays for it if they can't? YOU DO. No thank you. Less government is better government. WE should not look to the Feds or even the state to provide us with anything other than good roads, police and fire protection, and things like that. I am not footing the bill for anyone else who sneaks in this country then walks around with their hand out. We are not GUARANTEED anything - and that includes solutions or progress. Remember when people are in office too long, they forget whose money it is. Jerry Brown will get on TV and lie when he knows some of that money will go to fund his big toy trian project THAT WE CANNOT AFFORD.
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